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aham brahmasmi
June 28, 1981 Maharaj: The sprouting of Aham Brahmasmi takes place at some subtle place and when it grows, it grows continuously.
The deeper meaning of Aham Brahmasmi means an intuitive, inspirational growth from inside, the firm conviction that I am the Brahman.
Such a one in whom this growth of Aham Brahmasmi starts might undergo sufferings, but that one will not lose his understanding or this sprouting of Aham Brahmasmi.
"Aham Brahmasmi" means that "I am the Brahman", but before saying "I am the Brahman", you are already one with Brahman, then only will you be able to say "I am the Brahman".
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another person
Questioner [Another person]: It is different for me.
M: [Speaking to another person] This young man's mother was on her deathbed, but I said with conviction that she was not going to die.
Another person is searching for himself, but you are hiding.
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anybody else
You don't have to go to anybody else after you leave this place; that part of the work has already been done by you.
Don't worry about anybody else.
Neither you nor anybody else knows anything about this attraction.
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ask questions
Ask questions only regarding yourself.
Don't ask questions.
Don't ask questions about that.
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barren woman
Understand that the total manifestation is the child of a barren woman, but having understood this, give full attention to your work, and let that work be done as efficiently as possible.
Questioner: I know that I have to understand all this play of consciousness and conclude that this is like the child of a barren woman.
M: How are you going to catch that child of a barren woman?
June 30, 1981 Maharaj: All knowledge is like the son of a barren woman.
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become one
We are to turn within to that which lets us know that we are, to become one with that.
In the same way, you are not the consciousness; but you have to become one with the consciousness.
This does not happen for an individual — it happens for the universal manifestation, or for the one who has become one with his true nature.
If you really abide in what I say, you become one with your Self.
M: Once consciousness has lost its individuality and has become one with the universe, it will have no need to continue?
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birth principle
The birth principle, the chemical around which the body formation takes place, has no form or design and actually didn't exist.
Whatever I said is securely planted in that birth principle of yours, you cannot extract it.
M: Just enquire into that birth principle.
That birth principle which gives rise to the consciousness is not conditioned; it has come spontaneously and manifests as consciousness.
I realize this is all the outcome of that birth principle "I Am".
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bodily identity
February 5, 1981 Questioner: It is very difficult to give up this attraction to the bodily identity.
Give up this bodily identity.
Why are you overwhelmed by that counterfeit bodily identity "I"?
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body consciousness
The body consciousness is the result of the five elements.
Body consciousness and the world are not different; they are identical.
June 19, 1981 Maharaj: All happenings are only in body consciousness.
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body formation
The birth principle, the chemical around which the body formation takes place, has no form or design and actually didn't exist.
In my true state, if I had been aware of consciousness at the moment the body formation was taking place, I would have rejected it.
But at that highest state such knowledge is not there and this body formation and consciousness are both spontaneous.
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called knowledge
You understand what I say but you are afraid that whatever so-called knowledge you have collected is being devalued.
The so-called knowledge you get elsewhere talks only about ignorance; it cannot talk about the Self, true knowledge.
All so-called knowledge is tainted by words, which is only ignorance.
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carried away
Most people are carried away by the thought-flow, but a rare person turns around, goes to the source and departs from the track of that original thought-flow, saying, "It is not mine, not my affair.
Don't be carried away by concepts.
This consciousness is beating a drum; everyone is carried away by the noise of the drum.
Although you have heard these talks, still you will be carried away by your conceptual experiences.
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causal body
That consciousness which was planted in the womb was the causal body, the "lingadeha".
That causal body, which is very minute, needs to be known.
The quality of that causal body takes on the appearance of the consciousness and the form.
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cigarette lighter
It is like this cigarette lighter.
[Flicking his cigarette lighter on and off] This cigarette lighter is the body; the consciousness is the flame.
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come spontaneously
M: Listening will come spontaneously—just as you wake up spontaneously and fall asleep spontaneously.
That birth principle which gives rise to the consciousness is not conditioned; it has come spontaneously and manifests as consciousness.
Did it come spontaneously, or did you try for it?
The sense of presence which has come spontaneously will leave spontaneously.
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conscious presence
Feeling that I am present depends on having a body; I am neither the body nor the conscious presence.
The conscious presence depends on the body, and the body is nothing but the sperm and ovum, so where is this "you?
You are the conscious presence.
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consciousness arise
July 29, 1980 Questioner: Why did this consciousness arise?
One doesn't know, but suddenly consciousness arises.
Where and how did this consciousness arise on me?
Why did consciousness arise at all?
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deep sleep
The waking and deep sleep states come and go spontaneously.
When you are in deep sleep and you start to see forms, you are actually dreaming.
In deep sleep, consciousness was in a dormant condition; there were no bodies, no concepts, no encumbrances.
" That energy which moves all things in the waking state is latent in deep sleep.
You get pleasure only when you forget yourself; in deep sleep you have forgotten yourself, that itself is joy.
In deep sleep we are not aware of the body, we are aware of the body only when we are awake and the consciousness is there.
Day and night, remembering and forgetting, the waking state and the deep sleep state, are they one and the same thing or are they separate?
That thought-flow is always there, except in deep sleep.
You don't know whether you exist or not in deep sleep; you don't know you are, that is all.
The firm conviction that I am this, the three states -waking state, deep sleep and the knowledge "I Am" ~ are the aspects of that Tej Sesh Bhagavan.
You have to understand that when you are being stabilized in a state prior to waking state, deep sleep, prior to words and even prior to consciousness, something happens in your body state without your doing it.
The deep sleep state you are not.
You know the deep sleep state; therefore, you are not the deep sleep state.
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direct experience
The world is your direct experience, your own observation.
M: This is not your direct experience.
The words emanating here are not borrowed knowledge, which is available in scriptures and other books; this is from direct experience.
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dream world
There were no forms, then suddenly forms appeared, just as in the dream world.
You as a dreamer are sleeping on the bed, but in your dream world you see a body and you think it is you, and you are doing everything through this dream body.
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elemental play
This five elemental play is the manifestation of consciousness, the effulgence of consciousness only.
It has no form -the forms are given because of the five elemental play.
There is no such thing as spirituality; whatever is, is only this worldly life, in the five-elemental play.
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essence body
This knowingness is not your true state, it is the outcome of the food essence body, and you, the Absolute, are not that.
This is all the play due to your consciousness, and your consciousness is due to the food essence body.
This "droplet" of knowingness is a result of the food essence body; in understanding it, you are out of it.
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everything else
With air the movement is there, with fire the heat, with water all seeds and everything else, and because of water the taste is there.
If you are, then everything else is.
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everything happens
Later on, everything happens spontaneously, doership goes.
March 13, 1981 Maharaj: Everything happens out of our own Self.
To start with, everything happens in the space of the cosmos, and it results in concrete actions of the worldly space.
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experiential state
You are interested in your experiential state.
If you think that you have to be aware, then it becomes an experiential state.
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feel like
Through the sense of "I", you spontaneously feel like working.
I don't feel like talking at all, I want to go into a sort of silence.
You feel like that because when you are here, you are under the shade of, or you abide in, your own consciousness.
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five elemental
This five elemental play is the manifestation of consciousness, the effulgence of consciousness only.
It has no form -the forms are given because of the five elemental play.
The five gems are the five elemental body and consciousness, which I considered myself to be.
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five elements
But from it come the five elements, and with them, simultaneously, the body is formed at the moment that time is first experienced.
All these five elements are you only.
The play of the five elements will finally merge into the consciousness, because it is an outcome of the consciousness.
M: Is this body not composed of the five elements?
You know that you exist; does not this knowledge depend on the five elements?
A jnani is free because he sees that the body is made up of the five elements and it works according to the nature of these elements.
The essence of the combination of the five elements is the sense of being, of existing.
The body and consciousness, which come into being because of the five elements, can there be any emancipation for them?
M: The sum total of the five elements is consciousness.
This habit of experiencing will not go until you realize that all this domain of the five elements, and the experiences in the five elements, are unreal.
All that IS is the essence of the five elements.
By this aperception, the nature of the five elements is not going to change.
The essence of the five elements is this momentary sense of presence, as compared to eternity.
You are the product of the five elements, you have taken the support of the five elements.
Maharaj: The thoughts and actions belong to the body-mind and the body-mind is the essence of the five elements.
The nature of the form depends on the various degrees of the five elements and the three gunas.
Just as the light will remain only as long as there is fuel for it, so this consciousness will last only so long as this fuel is there, fuel being the body, which is made of the five elements which are an accumulation of food.
The body consciousness is the result of the five elements.
It is the five elements, three gunas, and prakriti-purusha.
Similarly, "I Amness" is the interruption because of these five elements and three gunas.
Everything is stored, the five elements are there; therefore, it is reflecting as the sun.
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food body
The consciousness and the knowledge will subside when the food body dies.
The knowingness is the outcome of the food body; when this body is consumed, where is that "I Amness"?
February 7, 1981 Questioner: I am becoming more aware of my "I Amness" as a product of the food body.
Maharaj: Both the memory and consciousness are the quality of the food body.
The "I Amness" is a quality of the food body, but that is not the nature of the true Self.
The taste of the food body is the knowledge "I Am".
This is the food body and the consciousness.
The food body you are not.
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food essence
This knowingness is not your true state, it is the outcome of the food essence body, and you, the Absolute, are not that.
This is all the play due to your consciousness, and your consciousness is due to the food essence body.
This "droplet" of knowingness is a result of the food essence body; in understanding it, you are out of it.
M: When you look at others, that other person is just food essence, as yourself.
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full well
Although such a one knows full well that he is not going to get anywhere, still one becomes busy with a number of concepts.
I know full well that this knowingness will not remain.
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get involved
Maharaj: You should not get involved in what has appeared.
If you get involved in the appearance of these, you will lose sight of the source, the tree.
I have to make an effort not to get involved in thoughts when I meditate.
If you have to make an effort in the beginning not to get involved, make that effort until it becomes effortless.
Do not get involved as the doer.
Why do you get involved in all these concepts?
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go beyond
Ultimately one must go beyond knowledge, but the knowledge must come, and knowledge can come by constant meditation.
The normal person's field of understanding does not go beyond his own body.
Most of you will not want to go beyond identification with an entity or a body.
Q: How does one go beyond time?
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great sage
He is a great sage.
Since you already have a great sage as your guru, you should not sit here or come here.
Are you not a disciple of a great Sage?
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happening spontaneously
If you abide in consciousness everything will be happening spontaneously.
When you are dwelling in this consciousness you see that you are not doing anything, it is all happening spontaneously.
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happens spontaneously
Whatever happens, happens spontaneously.
Later on, everything happens spontaneously, doership goes.
All this happens spontaneously.
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highest state
You are stabilizing in the highest state.
The highest state is the state of a jnani.
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human being
There is no difference between an ant, a human being, and Isvara; they are of the same quality.
What is the worth of all the activities of human beings?
My talks are not meant for normal human beings.
Just as grass is growing, human beings are growing.
In a human being that is the most constant principle.
Poor human beings are caught between worldly life and spiritual life.
Having followed the course of spirituality, you have come to the end of personality and there is no more human being.
March 29, 1981 Questioner: If the consciousness in all the different forms is identical, then why do thoughts and actions differ from one human being to another?
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human beings
What is the worth of all the activities of human beings?
My talks are not meant for normal human beings.
Just as grass is growing, human beings are growing.
Poor human beings are caught between worldly life and spiritual life.
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identify yourself
Do you now identify yourself with the thoughts?
Until you recognize and completely identify yourself with the knowledge "I Am", you will identify with the body.
So long as you identify yourself with the body, you will not have satisfaction.
Since you do not identify yourself with any form, mind has no avenue for any propagation; the mind subsides in the consciousness.
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ignorant one
Q: Are the thoughts of the jnani and the ignorant one different from one another?
M: The difference is that the jnani has divorced himself from the body-mind, the body-mind thoughts will come and go but the jnani is not concerned; whereas, the ignorant one gets involved in those thoughts and the ignorant one considers himself as a name and a form.
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important thing
M: Recite the sacred name, that is all right, but the important thing is to recognize and understand what is the presiding principle by which you know you are and by which you perceive everything else.
The most important thing for you is the "I Am".
The important thing is the consciousness.
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jean dunn
Edited by Jean Dunn; introduction by Ramesh S. Balsekar.
Edited by Jean Dunn.
FAX (919) 477-2622 CONSCIOUSNESSANDTHE ABSOLUTEThe final talks of Sri Nisargadatta MaharajEdited by Jean DunnTHE ACORN PRESS Durham, North Carolina Copyright ©1994 Jean Dunn All rights reserved.
JEAN DUNN May 1, 1980 Questioner: How does a jnani see the world?
M: [To Jean Dunn] You have promised me that you will complete the books.
This one [referring to Jean Dunn] has understood her nature.
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know yourself
To what extent do you know yourself?
You will know yourself in the process.
Give up your identity with the body, try to know yourself.
M: Because your "I Amness" is not there, you do not know yourself.
You must look at yourself, get to know yourself.
How dare you bother about others when you do not fully know yourself?
To know yourself is the real knowledge, but you cannot LOOK at yourself, you can only ABIDE in your Self.
You must have that deep urge to know yourself.
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like space
People are not going to accept anything blindly , because their intellect has become more subtle, like space.
If you abide in your Self you are like space and there is no duality left.
You should be like space.
When evaluation is not there, the mind is not there, it is like space.
You will slowly realize you are just like space, because space is the beginning and the end of everything.
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maharaj said
Q: Maharaj said that he is not going to die?
January 4, 1981 Questioner: I was pondering what Maharaj said about all consciousness being the same this morning, and for just a few seconds, it was as if everything was one and I was behind it.
Q: Maharaj said that I am not in the body, that the body is in me.
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manifest brahman
November 12, 1980 Maharaj: The "I Amness", the manifest Brahman, and Isvara are all only one; ponder over this and realize it.
You are the manifest Brahman.
" When you fall into sleep, be alert and remind yourself that "I am the manifest Brahman" at that moment, on the borderline.
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manifest consciousness
Whatever happens in the manifest consciousness happens.
Abiding in the dynamic, manifest consciousness is abiding in the words of the Guru.
It is the manifest consciousness which is continuously talking, I am not talking.
Not only is the body-mind unreal, but this manifest consciousness, this universe, is also unreal.
I am the manifest consciousness.
There is no imprint of personality, it is the manifest consciousness which is functioning.
This dynamic, manifest consciousness is always in a fluid state.
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many people
Many people from the West have come to follow his precepts through their reading of these collections.
This knowledge which has been expounded will not go to waste, many people have taken advantage of it.
M: I meet many people who, in the pursuit of happiness, are always miserable.
So many people come to Maharaj to tell him of the spiritual experiences which they have undergone through meditation, just to show people, "I am something!
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many years
Chief among them were Saumitra K. Mullarpattan, who was with Maharaj for many years; Ramesh S. Balsekar, who was with Maharaj for the last three years of his life and Damayanti Doongaji, who was a long time disciple.
There are yogis who have sat in meditation for many, many years seeking answers to this question, but even they haven't understood it.
How many years have you been going to him?
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maurice frydman
Maurice Frydman's translation of Maharaj's talks, "I Am That" and other collections which followed, including my own, have served as guideposts to Maharaj's philosophy.
Maurice Frydman described this great teacher as "warmhearted, tender, shrewdly humorous, absolutely fearless and true; inspiring, guiding and supporting all who come to him.
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must go
M: Not as an individual; the knowledge "I Am" must go back to its own source.
Ultimately one must go beyond knowledge, but the knowledge must come, and knowledge can come by constant meditation.
As soon as the seed takes root, they must go.
Now I must go.
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must understand
One must understand how clever this fraud of Maya is; first it shows us our body and makes us believe that we are the body, but the body is nothing but a speck of fertilized sperm, and in that sperm the consciousness is latent.
" It is knowledge which must understand its own nature, and merge with the knowledge which is its source.
Your knowingness will, in due course, be consumed, will disappear, so it cannot be real; but you can't just dismiss it, you must understand it fully.
You must understand that first.
You must understand that truth is not changeable.
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nine months
M: You did not have this concept "I Am" in the course of the nine months in the womb.
Nine months in the womb and for sometime afterwards that "I am so and so" is absent.
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nisargadatta maharaj
SEEDS OF CONSCIOUSNESS; THE WISDOM OF SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
) PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS; TALKS WITH SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
) EXPLORATIONS INTO THE ETERNAL: FORAYS INTO THE TEACHING OF SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
POINTERS FROM NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
"This publication is alive with the intensity and force of Nisargadatta Maharaj's spiritual realization, and the fierceness and dedication with which he relentlessly strove to accelerate others' liberation.
FAX (919) 477-2622 CONSCIOUSNESSANDTHE ABSOLUTEThe final talks of Sri Nisargadatta MaharajEdited by Jean DunnTHE ACORN PRESS Durham, North Carolina Copyright ©1994 Jean Dunn All rights reserved.
AcknowledgmentsSri Nisargadatta Maharaj's talks were taped by Ms. N. Vanaja, who never missed a meeting.
Abiding by the wishes of my Guru, Nisargadatta Maharaj, who wanted to publish his talks without any alterations, I have not changed the wording as translated.
JD IntroductionThe teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj have been published in several books using the original question-and-answer format in which the teachings were given.
In this book you will find the last teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, the final dialogues he had with the people who had come from all over the world to hear his words.
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nothing else
It is consciousness which is manifest, nothing else.
Q: What is turiyal M: Turiya means that only you remain; nothing else remains.
Therefore, this sense of presence, this consciousness, is it not the primary thing without which nothing else can happen?
Treat that as the highest God and worship nothing else other than the sense of presence, and when you are one with the sense of presence, then whatever is necessary by way of spiritual knowledge will sprout by itself.
There is nothing else but the knowledge that you are, just be that.
There is nothing else other than this knowledge, no entity.
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objective world
M: Every being experiences the Isvara state, either directly or potentially, but he is so wrapped up in this objective world that he loses his identity.
There are millions of names, but all these names relate to the objective world.
Whatever is grasped by the mind and intellect is this objective world.
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one identifies
Q: Is the identification with the body so strong -I mean -is it such a habit that one identifies with the body even after one knows what lies beyond?
How amusing it is that one identifies with the body.
Because one identifies oneself with his body, he thinks he is born and is going to die.
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one must
" He said one must find out what the body is, where it came from, study it with detachment, watch it without judging.
Ultimately one must go beyond knowledge, but the knowledge must come, and knowledge can come by constant meditation.
One must understand how clever this fraud of Maya is; first it shows us our body and makes us believe that we are the body, but the body is nothing but a speck of fertilized sperm, and in that sperm the consciousness is latent.
One must know exactly what is time and what is you.
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one thing
Please understand that there is only one thing to be understood, and that is that you are the formless, timeless unborn.
Remember one thing, I am addressing my talk to the message "I Am".
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one who
M: The one who said, "I don't know" must have been there; in short, you were not like this, but you must have been something.
You think that you are the one who has the thoughts; in fact thoughts arise in consciousness.
The one who has fully investigated himself, the one who has come to understand, will never try to interfere in the play of consciousness.
The effort of the one who has arrested that movement will not go to waste.
This does not happen for an individual — it happens for the universal manifestation, or for the one who has become one with his true nature.
How amusing it is to see someone who thinks of himself as an individual, who thinks of himself as a doer or achiever.
One who has rejected this identity will understand.
M: How can one who is not born, die?
" and you are not going to get an answer, because the one who will get the answer is false.
The one who experiences sat-chit-ananda is there before the experience.
It is total freedom for one who does not identify with the body.
The One who is prior to the appearance of the elements is always there.
The one who identifies with the body is the consciousness itself.
The one who understands this ultimate meaning of life gets disassociated from the body and a transformation takes place.
Who is the one who knows that there was no day, no night, the consciousness was not there?
The one who understands that anger is the message "I Am".
Rarely do I encounter someone who says "I am content.
The sadhaka is one who has dis-identified with the body-mind.
A Siddha is one who has stabilized in the knowledge "I Am", and in the process, has transcended it.
Who is the one who sings the bhajan?
] One who has understood one's mystery as to what is, that one will not discuss or argue the largeness or smallness of anybody.
So long as the body is there, anyone who considers himself an individual has as his only capital the sense of presence, this consciousness.
My sentences will tear to pieces the doubts of anyone who listens to them.
Jivatman is the one who identifies with the body-mind as an individual separate from the world.
Jivatman is the one who identifies himself with the body-mind.
One who thinks I am a body, a personality, an individual apart from the world.
One who has transcended the consciousness, or one who has seen the end of this, for such a one, where is there the question of any gain or loss?
Who is the one who recognizes this body-mind?
M: To understand what you are, and ultimately to identify with the Self that you are, you must meet someone who has identified himself with the Self and also who has understood the Self thoroughly.
Yogi: One who practices Yoga.
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people come
November 25, 1980 Maharaj: People come here and stay for days, weeks, even months.
People come here and ask for blessings; they don't understand that the knowledge that one is not the body, but the consciousness within, is the blessing.
Some people come here for knowledge.
I merely sit here, people come and go, I am not concerned.
When people come here they have many questions and they think, after a while, they know something, but when they finally know there will be no questions to ask.
June 18, 1981 Maharaj: People come here because they feel there is a need to come.
When you people come here, you feel very satisfied and contented.
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people who
In this book you will find the last teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, the final dialogues he had with the people who had come from all over the world to hear his words.
Those people who run about from place to place aimlessly will gather nothing.
M: I meet many people who, in the pursuit of happiness, are always miserable.
Among the millions of people who have come and gone, where am I counted among them?
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perfect state
After the dissolution of the universe, when no further vestige of creation was apparent, what remained is my perfect state.
The perfect state, caught up in these experiences, and trying to derive certain benefits out of the experiences.
When I shall be totally in my Ultimate state, when this consciousness is finally extinguished, THAT is my total, perfect state.
I was always in that blissful, complete, total state; suddenly I am in this imperfect state.
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present talks
My present talk is quite different now, at a higher level; therefore I do not invite anybody to listen to my present talks.
My present talks, if they are really understood, require no more discipline or sadhana.
The present talks are the culmination, or termination, of spiritual understanding.
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raw material
You have everything, the raw material is already with you, the symbol of birth and death is already removed.
To sustain that memory of "I Am", all these raw materials are necessary.
This "I Amness" is the product of these raw materials, but you, as Absolute, are not that.
Once all that raw material has gone, where is that memory "I Am"?
Chidakash is that raw material by which you evaluate whatever you experience or whatever you observe.
The raw material comes from the space.
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sesh bhagavan
In that ink with which the letters "I Am" were written, in that ink the title of Tej Sesh Bhagavan is confirmed by the Vedas.
That Taj Sesh Bhagavan has spontaneously come and will spontaneously go.
The firm conviction that I am this, the three states -waking state, deep sleep and the knowledge "I Am" ~ are the aspects of that Tej Sesh Bhagavan.
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sleep state
The waking and deep sleep states come and go spontaneously.
Day and night, remembering and forgetting, the waking state and the deep sleep state, are they one and the same thing or are they separate?
You are in the three states, the waking state, deep sleep state and the knowledge you are, so why are you dealing with the state which you are not?
The deep sleep state you are not.
You know the deep sleep state; therefore, you are not the deep sleep state.
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slightest touch
What is happening now is that even the slightest touch of individuality has completely disappeared, and it is consciousness as such which is spontaneously experiencing.
Now there is not the slightest touch of any individual form nor functioning.
April 10, 1981 Maharaj: There is only the slightest touch of "I Amness" left.
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someone who
How amusing it is to see someone who thinks of himself as an individual, who thinks of himself as a doer or achiever.
Rarely do I encounter someone who says "I am content.
M: To understand what you are, and ultimately to identify with the Self that you are, you must meet someone who has identified himself with the Self and also who has understood the Self thoroughly.
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something good
This dynamic consciousness does not have any concept that something good or bad is going to happen to it; it is just happening.
Only at word level does one think something good or bad will happen; when one identifies with the space, it is the end of good and bad.
Then, in an effort to acquire good or to get rid of the bad, you have invented a God -then you worship such a God and do bhajan and you pray to that God for something good to happen to you.
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something like
Consciousness is something like the drama of a play, play-acting.
December 22, 1980 Maharaj: Just now I was lying down in the waking state, but with no perceiving or receiving of any words, something like a prior-to-words state.
It is something like the body having completely adjusted, like the grains which you have stored being completely adjusted.
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spiritual knowledge
You do not want to give up either worldly knowledge or so-called spiritual knowledge, and yet, through these worldly concepts, you want to understand the riddle of your existence, and that is precisely why you are not able to understand.
Spiritual knowledge should not be studied; it is knowledge derived from listening.
As our spiritual knowledge grows, our identification with an individual body-mind diminishes, and our consciousness expands into universal consciousness.
Those who come here with the idea of getting knowledge, even spiritual knowledge, come here as individuals aspiring to get something; that is the real difficulty.
Subsequent to that "I Am" and body-mind, and in the realm of the mind, there occurs what you call spiritual seeking, or spiritual knowledge.
Whatever spiritual knowledge he thinks he may have achieved, he continues to live according to those concepts.
Whatever you think of as spiritual knowledge was gained in the realm of consciousness; such knowledge is merely a burden upon your head and it is going to add more misery.
Treat that as the highest God and worship nothing else other than the sense of presence, and when you are one with the sense of presence, then whatever is necessary by way of spiritual knowledge will sprout by itself.
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sri nisargadatta
SEEDS OF CONSCIOUSNESS; THE WISDOM OF SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
) PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS; TALKS WITH SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ.
FAX (919) 477-2622 CONSCIOUSNESSANDTHE ABSOLUTEThe final talks of Sri Nisargadatta MaharajEdited by Jean DunnTHE ACORN PRESS Durham, North Carolina Copyright ©1994 Jean Dunn All rights reserved.
AcknowledgmentsSri Nisargadatta Maharaj's talks were taped by Ms. N. Vanaja, who never missed a meeting.
In this book you will find the last teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, the final dialogues he had with the people who had come from all over the world to hear his words.
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state prior
The total absence of all knowledge or ignorance is that state prior to the arising of consciousness.
You have to understand that when you are being stabilized in a state prior to waking state, deep sleep, prior to words and even prior to consciousness, something happens in your body state without your doing it.
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sum total
The essence and sum total of this whole talk is called Sat-guru Parabrahman, that state in which there are no requirements.
M: The sum total of the five elements is consciousness.
M: The sum total of my spirituality now is nothing, even that word "nothing" is not there, so there is no spirituality left.
The sum total is, whatever experiences you have, whether for a day or for years, it is all illusion.
But the sum total of the universe—has it become more or less?
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three gunas
The nature of the form depends on the various degrees of the five elements and the three gunas.
It is the five elements, three gunas, and prakriti-purusha.
The memory is the result of the five elements and three gunas, the eight-aspects.
Similarly, "I Amness" is the interruption because of these five elements and three gunas.
The three gunas are Sattwa, Rajas and Tamas.
Sattva or Sattwa: Light, purity, being, existence, one of the three gunas.
Tamas: Ignorance, darkness, one of the three gunas.
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three states
Q: Does Maharaj mean that the experiencer of the three states is the Self?
Truth is constant and eternal, whereas the combination of these three states has come upon you and were not there earlier.
The firm conviction that I am this, the three states -waking state, deep sleep and the knowledge "I Am" ~ are the aspects of that Tej Sesh Bhagavan.
You are in the three states, the waking state, deep sleep state and the knowledge you are, so why are you dealing with the state which you are not?
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total freedom
November 18, 1980 Maharaj: My present outlook is without limitation, total freedom.
The result is total freedom.
It is total freedom for one who does not identify with the body.
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total functioning
There is only you, the total functioning is you, the consciousness is you.
There is now cognition of total functioning as such, but even that will last only so long as the body lasts.
Just remember that the total functioning of the manifest happens through the friction of the five elements and the talking which takes place is a part of the total functioning.
Maharaj: The first thing that happens is that the individuality is lost, and whatever happens then is seen as total functioning; the understanding of the total functioning cannot be divided.
In that state any number of events happen, but all that is really happening is a total functioning against the background of this void which, in reality, is really consciousness.
There is no individuality connected with any of those forms, but I have always been, and I am, the total functioning.
I am the total functioning every moment, millions of years ago or now.
Instead of accepting this knowledge as a total functioning, one wants to cut up the knowledge into bits and pieces, taking a part for himself, based on some concept.
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total manifestation
They become the total manifestation.
Understand that the total manifestation is the child of a barren woman, but having understood this, give full attention to your work, and let that work be done as efficiently as possible.
It is total manifestation.
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true identity
When this body machine is there, the technique of using it is there, and that is what you are identifying with now, but it is not your true identity.
This body is made of food, but what is your true identity?
The Absolute is your true identity.
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true knowledge
True knowledge is to abide in your own Self.
The so-called knowledge you get elsewhere talks only about ignorance; it cannot talk about the Self, true knowledge.
All of what is pursued by the mind it is not true knowledge.
True knowledge cannot be understood easily.
Any knowledge based on a concept is not true knowledge.
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true nature
Only then did I understand what my true nature is.
Your true nature is open and free, but you cover it up, you give it various designs.
This does not happen for an individual — it happens for the universal manifestation, or for the one who has become one with his true nature.
Unless you abide in your own true nature you will not be able to gauge the depth of another's nature.
Even your experience that you are is not your true nature.
Whatever you are prior to the appearance of "I Am", that is your true nature.
This body is not your true nature.
The principle by which you know "I Am" is your true nature.
Are any of these states your true nature?
It is good, as far as it goes, that you have identified with this sense of presence, but understand that even that is temporary and not your true nature.
I talk only about your true nature and your true nature is the sense of presence you have, this consciousness.
Swarupa: Essence, essential nature, true nature of being.
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true state
I have told you many times what your true state is, but, through force of habit, you again descend into body identification.
My true state is prior to this consciousness.
Your true state is non-manifest; the manifestation comes and the words come.
In my true state, if I had been aware of consciousness at the moment the body formation was taking place, I would have rejected it.
What is necessary is to understand with sure conviction is that all is temporary, and does not reflect your true state.
In your true state there are no words, but you think yourself important and you embrace many words.
That means that you are in a true state of beingness.
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ultimate principle
Whatever experiences were happening in this field of knowingness, the Ultimate principle got caught up in that.
The Ultimate principle that knows this beingness cannot be termed at all.
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ultimate state
The Ultimate state in spirituality is that state where no needs are felt at any time, where nothing is useful for anything.
M: The Ultimate state is that state in which there is a total end to this body, name and form.
When I shall be totally in my Ultimate state, when this consciousness is finally extinguished, THAT is my total, perfect state.
January 14, 1981 Maharaj: The Ultimate state is that state in which nothing exists, neither I, nor you, nor manifestation.
Questioner: Can Maharaj describe the Ultimate state?
That is the Ultimate state.
That is the Ultimate state.
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universal consciousness
At the present time, Consciousness is what we are, not personal Consciousness, but impersonal, universal Consciousness.
As our spiritual knowledge grows, our identification with an individual body-mind diminishes, and our consciousness expands into universal consciousness.
Questioner: Is universal consciousness ever aware of itself as universal consciousness, or does it become aware only when there is a form?
This consciousness is not limited to the body but is universal consciousness; I can't speak of anything else now.
All my actions are the actions of universal consciousness appearing to work through this body.
Q: Can Maharaj, out of compassion, give me a push into that state of universal consciousness?
It is because of your identification with the body as an entity that your consciousness, which is universal consciousness, thinks that it is dying.
It is the millions of forms which get created and destroyed, but universal consciousness itself is unborn and undying.
I talk to you from the perspective of the universal consciousness and I know that all bodies are the essence of food and that they will vanish.
Chit: Universal consciousness.
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various concepts
Even in the realm of consciousness you pass the time entertaining various concepts; what else are you doing?
Q: Is Maharaj playing with various concepts?
But you try to interpret whatever I say with various concepts and you condition yourself with all these concepts.
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vital breath
You can watch the breath, so you are not the vital breath.
Language energy and vital breath energy should merge and stabilize.
Suppose I do not like my body, or even the vital breath, what can I do -the body is there, vital breath is there, and therefore this "I Amness" is there.
Presently there are an infinite number of items in your associations with this world because you have the association of the vital breath.
Suppose that vital breath goes.
When the body, the mind, the vital breath drop off, nothing happens; only I, the Absolute, prevail always.
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waking state
Whatever you see, even in the waking state, doesn't it come from your own beingness which is dwelling within the body?
In that same way, bodies are created in the so-called waking state.
" That energy which moves all things in the waking state is latent in deep sleep.
December 22, 1980 Maharaj: Just now I was lying down in the waking state, but with no perceiving or receiving of any words, something like a prior-to-words state.
Day and night, remembering and forgetting, the waking state and the deep sleep state, are they one and the same thing or are they separate?
The firm conviction that I am this, the three states -waking state, deep sleep and the knowledge "I Am" ~ are the aspects of that Tej Sesh Bhagavan.
You are in the three states, the waking state, deep sleep state and the knowledge you are, so why are you dealing with the state which you are not?
You have to understand that when you are being stabilized in a state prior to waking state, deep sleep, prior to words and even prior to consciousness, something happens in your body state without your doing it.
You, the Absolute, watch the waking state, you know the consciousness, you know the sleeping state; therefore, you are not that.
The waking state you are not.
You know the waking state.
Since you know the waking state you are not the waking state.
It is just like the waking state.
" So the waking state precedes your saying "I woke up.
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whatever happens
Whatever happens in the manifest consciousness happens.
Now that has totally disappeared; therefore, whatever happens in the field of consciousness, I, who am there before consciousness, am not concerned in any way.
M: Whatever happens between birth and death is also an expression of the consciousness only.
Whatever happens, happens spontaneously.
Whatever happens, you accept it based on your identity with the body, and the body is time-bound.
Whatever happens in consciousness is purely imaginary, an hallucination; therefore, keep in mind the knowledge that it is consciousness in which everything is happening.
Maharaj: The first thing that happens is that the individuality is lost, and whatever happens then is seen as total functioning; the understanding of the total functioning cannot be divided.
Whatever happens in this concrete world, the instruments and the aids come from the space.
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who identifies
The one who identifies with the body is the consciousness itself.
Jivatman is the one who identifies with the body-mind as an individual separate from the world.
Jivatman is the one who identifies himself with the body-mind.
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who knows
The moment the "I" is proven unreal, who is it who knows that the "I" is unreal?
That by which everything is known, whether it is or is not - who knows this?
Who is the one who knows that there was no day, no night, the consciousness was not there?
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who thinks
How amusing it is to see someone who thinks of himself as an individual, who thinks of himself as a doer or achiever.
One who thinks I am a body, a personality, an individual apart from the world.
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whole world
Of course, the action of the whole world depends on this intellect, but when this intellect reaches its apex, it gets merged into Parabrahman.
The whole world is in an ever-changing state.
Presently you have only the feeling of "I Amness" and because of that feeling the whole world is manifested.
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without concepts
Maharaj: Understand what I say without concepts; you are adding new concepts.
That knowledge "I Am", without concepts, is evoked or stimulated by the consciousness and peace which emanate from this place.
So whatever is, is that other consciousness, that one which is without concepts.
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without words
Get to know that "I Am" without words which arises in the morning.
" Then you come to the "I Am" only, without words.
M: Can you live without words?
Self-love and "I Am" without words are the same.
Maharaj: That state of being is common to all, that is the message "I Am" without words.
To keep only consciousness, without mixing it with anything, that is knowledge without words, that you ARE.
That Ultimate you knows or feels "I Am" without words.
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world knowledge
Through this "I Am" comes the world knowledge.
You are not in isolation, you are part and parcel of the world knowledge.
You are part and parcel of the world knowledge.
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worldly knowledge
What I am expounding does not relate to worldly knowledge.
You do not want to give up either worldly knowledge or so-called spiritual knowledge, and yet, through these worldly concepts, you want to understand the riddle of your existence, and that is precisely why you are not able to understand.
I will not talk about the worldly knowledge.
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worldly life
There is no such thing as spirituality; whatever is, is only this worldly life, in the five-elemental play.
Poor human beings are caught between worldly life and spiritual life.
The worldly life of a jnani means the total functioning of consciousness.
Samsara: The worldly life.